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		<title>Madalyn.winans: Created page with &quot;'''i3Detroit Board Meeting November 13, 2012'''  Chair: Dustin White  Start 7:30pm   '''Attendees'''  Dustin White  Karen Corbeill  Maddy Winans  Steve f00f  Matt Arnold  Roge...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;i3Detroit Board Meeting November 13, 2012&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  Chair: Dustin White  Start 7:30pm   &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Attendees&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;  Dustin White  Karen Corbeill  Maddy Winans  Steve f00f  Matt Arnold  Roge...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''i3Detroit Board Meeting November 13, 2012'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Chair: Dustin White&lt;br /&gt;
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Start 7:30pm&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Attendees'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin White&lt;br /&gt;
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Karen Corbeill&lt;br /&gt;
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Maddy Winans&lt;br /&gt;
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Steve f00f&lt;br /&gt;
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Matt Arnold&lt;br /&gt;
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Roger S.&lt;br /&gt;
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NAte W&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B&lt;br /&gt;
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Adrienne&lt;br /&gt;
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Paul K&lt;br /&gt;
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Ed P (hangout)&lt;br /&gt;
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Matt O (hangout)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Potlock Money'''&lt;br /&gt;
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dustin:  i kind of went through and retooled ht elist a bit,. I cleaned up the list a little bit. We need a fence around the kiln.&lt;br /&gt;
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Karen: burn and melt prevention.&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: is $700  do-able for potlock&lt;br /&gt;
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Adrienne: yes that is fine&lt;br /&gt;
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''Proposal will be sent to the mailing list to spend up to $700''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Camera proposal final'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Dusitn: This has been a ticket item for a long time&lt;br /&gt;
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	Tool Crib&lt;br /&gt;
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	One facing the tablesaw&lt;br /&gt;
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	Electronics room&lt;br /&gt;
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	one up that can see both doors&lt;br /&gt;
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	one above the commons area looking towards the CNC machine&lt;br /&gt;
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	one in the metal shop - high injury risk&lt;br /&gt;
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	ONe by the laser cutters&lt;br /&gt;
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	one on the exterior of the building&lt;br /&gt;
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we have 8 cameras. Does that seem reasonable to everyone? We can tweak to please.&lt;br /&gt;
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Proposal to be sent to list for camera placements''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Large tool forms'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate W: We just need to make sure we get these filled out of the laser cutters because they haven't been filled out yet.&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: do the injection molders belong to the shop?&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: they need to still be filled out regardless if the shop owns them or not, otherwise people would just dump things here and say it belongs to the space.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: The Large Dinosaur?&lt;br /&gt;
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''Large Dinosaur is to be moved to a better location or removed from the space''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Lease'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Maddy: Lease is up April 1, 2013&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: we are going to need to negotiate so we don't get a rate increase.&lt;br /&gt;
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Adrianne: Eric MErrill said he would be happy to help us negotiate&lt;br /&gt;
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NAte: we could push that we pay our rent on time always.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: We could always move &lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: B Nektar doesn’t seem to think they will be here past three years, it might be a good idea to stay in this space so we can expand to the open space next door when they move.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: So for points on the lease... 3 years with a 6 month out? We want to try and keep same rent and splitting the electrical service. Does it help to put a minimum on it? How much rent are we willing to pay? We pay $2100 right now&lt;br /&gt;
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Adrienne: It depends how much money we want left over at the end of the month. We wanna stay where we are at ideally&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: once we get this door thing figured out for i3west we are going to be doing a couple more hundred a month.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: Has anyone negotiated a commercial lease before?&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: Eric merill&lt;br /&gt;
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'''I3 west'''&lt;br /&gt;
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NAte B: I was going to introduce the notion of abandoning it completely.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: the lock box hasn't been fabricated yet. But I don’t think we are going to get it done by the end of November. We might be done by the end of december&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: is anyone going to use it?&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: Should we open the discussion back up to the list?&lt;br /&gt;
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KAren: how much is the rent?&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: $300, everyone has already voted yes. I didn’t like the idea of it from the begining&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: I was neutral on it, but because it was month to month&lt;br /&gt;
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Karen: i say we bring it up at the next member meeting to see if people are still interested in it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: the act of saving it will hold it’s spot.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate W: What has to be done&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: Everything is on the mailing list.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: there is a punch list that needs to be done.&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: it’s basically the lock box that needs to be completed. We need a project manager, and a champion&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: that was me and i will willing say that i have failed at it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: We need a champion!&lt;br /&gt;
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Maddy: we need to bring it up at the regular meeting to see if people still want to use it&lt;br /&gt;
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KAren: we need to have reasons to have it; &lt;br /&gt;
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Steve F00f: Should there be an audit period if we don’t use it for three months?&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: Board meetings can be held over there.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Action: We need a champion by the end of November, it needs to have progress by January 31st and done by January 31 or *plbt* (per Karen)''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Moving funds around'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate W; A handful of us, think that we need to move some money over to savings&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: we have a an “oh S***” fund that we sit on. So how much should we bump it up to?&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate W; We should bump up emergency fund to $5000.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: 5k is two months rent. &lt;br /&gt;
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Paul K: realistically we want a 6 month survival fund. we want 6 times monthly rent. It’s in the tens of thousands of dollars&lt;br /&gt;
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Funds are to stay where they are. Savings will not be increased except at the discretion of the treasurer.''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Zone Wardens'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: I think we need to refresh these&lt;br /&gt;
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Brodie: How do you become a zone warden?&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: I will put out an email with a list of zone wardens and people can volunteer.&lt;br /&gt;
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''(doorbell rings)''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Action: Mantis ticket made Email will be sent to list''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Cleanup reminder'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: Nate and i have talked to Steve (Hermann) several times about cleaning up the metal shop. I am not sure how to approach this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: its a habit, there really is not much else we can do. I am going to start walking people through areas and ask them if they have cleaned at the end of the night.&lt;br /&gt;
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Matt A: its difficult sometimes when you don't know where items go. &lt;br /&gt;
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Roger: is there an alternate model where spaces clean up once a week?&lt;br /&gt;
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Karen: can we create a box for each zone that’s a box for “i don’t know where it goes” at the potlock?&lt;br /&gt;
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''Steve f00f will talk to steve about cleaning the metal shop''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''new promotional flyer'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Matt A: I am interested in helping with this&lt;br /&gt;
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Karen: I want a new one because the info is extremely outdated&lt;br /&gt;
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Matt A: It is very vague in certain places. We need some more information on membership levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: I think there needs to be a bigger picture of me on the front (lololololozzz)&lt;br /&gt;
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Matt A: What would help me out would be someone helping with it.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Brodie and Dustin W. offer to help; a day will be chosen to drink hot cocoa and collaboratively create a beautiful new brochure''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''B-Nektar Membership'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: I’m talking to brad; he wants 6-7 guys that need memberships here because they need large equipment. He wants to know if he can have a reduced fee membership.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B; this needs to be brought up to the whole membership&lt;br /&gt;
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Karen: this is something that the board needs to create and then present to the membership &lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: what is a reasonable amount to charge these people&lt;br /&gt;
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Karen: $200 for up to 6 people?&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: They won’t be using the space nearly as much as anyone else.&lt;br /&gt;
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Roger: is it still the same amount of access&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B; My concern is that they won’t be tuned into the mailing list&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: We would need to make sure that Brad is giving the information to his employees.&lt;br /&gt;
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MAtt A: the first time that communication fails to happen we might need to revisit this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Steve f00f: if we did give him a  reduced rate for his employees what if we have him open up his business for events that we have here?&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: I would prefer to have no special cases; so what about this: he has a couple normal memberships for a couple of his guys with keys; and all his other employees come in as guests.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: I agree except making a family membership. But i think that is worth also revisiting for cases like this. It might be a better way to strike a balance. BUt it comes back to are they put on the mailing list, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Steve f00f: our rates are already extremely low&lt;br /&gt;
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Brodie: would he still buy memberships if we don't give him a special rate? If we still charge him a regular rate, then he might decide he doesn’t want it and we will lose out on that money.&lt;br /&gt;
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NAte B: Propose we do nothing, and just let his guys come in remotely?&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: he wants to padlock his door on his side for our protection.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted : he should buy a membership for 3 or 4 of his senior list and treat them as regular members, anyone else will be considered a guest&lt;br /&gt;
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Steve f00f: I can agree with nate but i don’t think we should pass up 3 or 4 more memberships I agree with ted as long as everyone signs a waiver&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: get brads opinion and see what he thinks&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: i will talk to him next time i see him&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Teaching Classes Policy'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Dustin reads proposed policy to teach classes written by roger'' &lt;br /&gt;
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Karen: i think this is an extremely helpful policy&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: Two questions, this is not to be a profit making unicorn? I don’t see anything wrong with making profit?&lt;br /&gt;
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KAren: I think this is a great guideline&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: There is a line on how it must be done and how it can be done.&lt;br /&gt;
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''(dustin leaves in anger) (not really, he just got the whiteboard cleaner bottle)''&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: we need to establish some sort of structure. &lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: people do not understand that they can have classes open to the public. &lt;br /&gt;
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Matt A: I think it should simply be guidelines; not rules or a policy&lt;br /&gt;
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''(agreement from Karen and Maddy)''&lt;br /&gt;
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Guidelines for conducting classes, exceptions can will and can be made, &lt;br /&gt;
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''ACTION: Nate B moves to strike about minimum fees requires and put  on wiki. Ted seconds and motion passes''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Matis tickets''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''New Business'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Adrienne: With the forklift we never decided how much money we were going to allocate from that&lt;br /&gt;
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ted: up $200 for forklift repair?&lt;br /&gt;
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''Someone seconds''&lt;br /&gt;
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Dustin: Third&lt;br /&gt;
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''$200 Granted for repair of forklift.''&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate B: I want to teach people things here. The training coordinator at my work let me teach things to people here. We did some soldering stuff here, but do we have a way to invoice people? Rental of lab utilities, etc.? We need an invoice created.&lt;br /&gt;
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Adrienne: go for it!&lt;br /&gt;
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Roger: we should set a guideline.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nate W: is this being written off as a service, how will it affect our taxes?&lt;br /&gt;
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''Ted gets a gold star for raising his hand''&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: we need a basic price list for people using i3 for a corporate event or something.&lt;br /&gt;
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Karen: what do you think would be included in that? Should we have options for additional?&lt;br /&gt;
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Ted: if they want extra things we can add it in as needed. We want to make this available to people&lt;br /&gt;
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KAren C: Detroit Urban Craft Fair; do we care about our presence? Does anyone want to do it?&lt;br /&gt;
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''(no one is interested anymore)''&lt;br /&gt;
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Adrienne: I need a list of laser donors!&lt;br /&gt;
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''9:01pm end''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Madalyn.winans</name></author>	</entry>

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