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Zone Information
Zone Name Automotive Zone
Status Active
Zone Slogan Get in the zone - Automotive Zone
Zone Committee Heads(s) Sid Wali
Zone Slack #cartalk
Zone E-mail auto@i3detroit.org


Zone Color Brown
Paypal Button Pay money to Automotive Zone


Automotive Zone Rules

Vehicle definition – trailer, quad, motorcycle, car, truck, van, snowmobile, jet ski, etc.


No paid service is to be conducted in the automotive zone. The zone is for i3 members/friends to learn and work on vehicles together, not to be run as an automotive repair/service shop for hire. It is expressly against the law due to the zoning of i3 Detroit. Examples of acceptable and unacceptable behavior:

  • Unacceptable – “I have access to a lift, and can change your brakes for you for $100”
  • Acceptable – “If you’d like to work on this car together and help me / learn how to change brakes we can do that in the automotive zone”


An agreement has been made with Monaghan's Towing to remove vehicles in violation of the rules, at the vehicle owner's expense (see below). If a member needs to arrange to tow their vehicle home, they can use any tow company they wish, including Monaghan Towing (rate as of 12/07/21 is $70/hookup, $4/mile). It is important to note that if the vehicle is towed and impounded because the owner cannot be contacted, the recovery fee is significantly higher.

Reservations

  • To have a vehicle in the automotive zone, you must have a reservation (this includes walk-up work, where you make the reservation upon your arrival, as long as it is not already reserved by someone else).
  • Reservations for the space occupied by the 2 post lift (whether or not lift is in use) are to be made using the 2 post lift calendar, put your name and phone number in the event
  • It is the responsibility of the vehicle owner to remove their vehicle, whether or not it can move under its own power. Towing equipment is available in the zone for this purpose.


Any member can reserve the automotive zone, whether it involves a full vehicle or not. The automotive zone can only be reserved as a whole space, if you do not need the whole space we encourage you to share with others.


If a member needs to have the automotive zone clear for moving large supplies/equipment through the B side loading bay door, they should create a reservation for the zone to ensure the path is clear.


Walk-up work

  • If the automotive zone is empty, and the space is not reserved on the calendar, members can bring their projects in to work on them ad-hoc. Members with reservations have priority to use the space during their scheduled time, so if someone makes a reservation while you’re there and you haven’t reserved the space for yourself, you might need to stop your work to let them in.


Zone reservation

  • Allowable time blocks:
    • Normal project duration
      • Max number of hours at a time: 6
      • Reservation extensions can be submitted in the last hour of current reservation if time is still available.
      • Any one person may only have one current or future reservation at a time
    • Extended project duration
      • Requires zone coordinator prior approval, at least 1 week in advance.
      • Approval contingent on agreed upon plan for removal of inoperable vehicle or unfinished project should it not be completed in the time allotted.


Unattended vehicles/projects (please read carefully)

  • A vehicle may only be left unattended in the automotive zone if you have an active reservation (which includes your name and contact information)
  • If your vehicle or project is in the auto zone without an active reservation it needs to be removed. The process is as follows:
    • If contact information is posted, attempt to contact owner will be made
      • If owner responds they will be instructed to remove the vehicle within two hours
      • If no response from owner within two hours, vehicle will be towed at vehicle owner’s expense
    • If there is no contact information and no one returns to remove the vehicle within 2 hours, it will be towed at the vehicle owner’s expense
  • If a vehicle needs to be stored overnight, see the section below.

Project Parking Space

  • There is a provision for members to park project vehicles that need to be worked on for more than one day/overnight. This is intended to allow members to store their functioning/disabled vehicles overnight in case their auto repair does not go as planned (broken bolt, ran out of time, etc). It is also intended to enable members to take on projects of larger scope (which require more than a day's work) without blocking access to the lift.

Use of this space is by reservation - on the zone calendar.

  • Space: To the left of the garage near the wood post and yellow pole. 8.5 ft parallel to the garage door, going out from the wood post, and 17 ft long going out from the yellow post.
  • Using the space for a disabled vehicle: In the case where a vehicle cannot move safely under its own power, users are expected to maneuver the vehicle into and out of the space using a tow vehicle or manual power. There are provisions for vehicle towing straps and shackles in the zone for this purpose.
  • Rules:
    • Users can book the parking space by creating a reservation on the zone calendar. Posting on the slack channel #cartalk in addition to calendar reservation is highly recommended.
    • Your vehicle cannot block access to the garage in any way. It is ok if it extends past the 17 ft length limit as long as there is at least 1 ft clearance between whatever is in the space and the street.
    • No long-term use: you cannot leave the same vehicle in it for more than 3 consecutive days/36 hours, or more than 6 days per calendar month. Zone or Board approval is required to go beyond this.
    • If someone is using this parking spot and does not have it booked, you can ask them to move their vehicle so you can use it for your booked time.
    • The space is intended for temporary overnight parking of projects. You cannot book it just to ensure you have a parking spot close to i3.
    • If you leave something in this spot past the time limit or without booking it, it will be towed. You must book the spot to leave anything in it while you are not at i3 (ex: overnight). Calendar bookings must be left once completed, do not remove old calendar entries.


Automotive fluids/waste

  • If you bring it in, you take it back with you on your way out. Plan ahead to have containers to do so.
  • There will be no waste left in the auto zone. This includes, but is not limited to:
    • Batteries, oil, transmission fluid, engine coolant, brake fluid, belts, tires, brake pads, etc.
  • Scrap metal parts that are reasonably clean may only go into the scrap metal bins (i.e. used water pump, worn brake rotors, etc.)
  • No automotive fluids of any kind are to be dumped on the ground, in floor drains, or in sink drains. If some fluid is spilled, clean it up immediately to prevent a slip hazard.

Vehicle part storage

Table of Equipment

Equipment Location Authorization Owner(s) Status
4x8 Utility Trailer LH wall by bay door No DavidHenry Running
2 Post Auto Lift Yes i3Detroit Running
OBD Code Reader Drawers - B2 No Kc8nod Running
Floor Jack RH Wall by bay door No i3Detroit Running
Oil Lift Drain RH Wall by bay door No i3Detroit Running
Tire Changer LH wall ahead of lift Yes i3Detroit Running
Wheel and Tire Balancer LH wall ahead of lift Yes i3Detroit Running
Wilmar Folding Engine Crane by scrap bins No i3Detroit Running
Bead Blaster (tank) Under workbench No Jglogower Running
Snap Ring Pliers Set (Astro) Drawers - B2 No Jglogower Running
ForScan OBD Scan tool Drawers - B2 No Jglogower Running
Set of Files (Rexbeti) Drawers - B2 No Jglogower Running
Klein Tools Multimeter Drawers - B2 No Jglogower Running
Cen Tech OBD Scan tool Drawers - B2 No i3Detroit Running
Autel TPMS Program Tool Drawers - B2 No i3Detroit Running
Step Bit Set Drawers - B4 No Jglogower Running
Large axle nut tool set Drawers - B4 No Jglogower Running
TOPME Bolt Nut Remover Set Drawers - B4 No Jglogower Running
5pc emergency nut remover Drawers - B4 No Jglogower Running
Craftsman Battery Charger LH wall by lift No i3Detroit Running
Craftsman folding creeper under table No i3Detroit Running
Neiko 1/2" Impact Socket Set Drawers - B1 No i3Detroit Running
Pittsburgh 3 ton hyd. Floor jack floor No i3Detroit Running
Nesco 2-1/4 ton hydraulic floor jack floor No i3Detroit Running
TPMS relearn tools (3) Cupboard shelf 1 No i3Detroit Running
Fuel Injector tester Cupboard shelf 1 No Jglogower Running
Cylinder compression tester Cupboard shelf 1 No i3Detroit Running
exhaust pipe expander Cupboard shelf 1 No Jglogower Running
disc brake tool set Cupboard shelf 1 No Jglogower Running
maddox spring compressor Cupboard shelf 1 No Jglogower Running
crow foot tool set Cupboard shelf 1 No Jglogower Running
37deg brake line flare tool Cupboard shelf 1 No Jglogower Running
tie rod/ball joint tool set Cupboard shelf 1 No Jglogower Running
pittsburgh 2lb slide hammer Cupboard shelf 1 No i3Detroit Running
brake bleeder kit (redbox) Cupboard shelf 1 No i3Detroit Running
plastic welding kit Cupboard shelf 1 No i3Detroit Running
photo tachometer Cupboard shelf 1 No i3Detroit Running
ball joint separator Cupboard shelf 1 No Jglogower Running
inflater wall mount (not in use) Cupboard shelf 2 No i3Detroit Running
plastic trim kit and fasteners Cupboard shelf 2 No i3Detroit Running
pittsburgh pneumatic bleeder Cupboard shelf 2 No i3Detroit Running
basketball (for bodywork/dents) Cupboard shelf 3 No i3Detroit Running
no spill coolant funnel Cupboard shelf 3 No i3Detroit Running
siphon pump orange Cupboard shelf 3 No Nate B Running
gear oil pump Cupboard shelf 3 No Sid Wali Running
rotary vane vacuum pump & oil Cupboard shelf 4 No ? Running
master inner tie rod tool set Cupboard shelf 4 No Jglogower Running
pittsburgh 3-jaw gear puller set Cupboard shelf 4 No i3Detroit Running
maddox cylinder leakdown tester Cupboard shelf 4 No Chris Stark Running
lainkeen inner bearing puller set Cupboard shelf 4 No Jglogower Running
induction bolt heater Cupboard shelf 4 No Nbezanson Running
ball joint press tool set Cupboard shelf 4 No Jglogower Running
branick 7200 spring compressor currently on table No i3Detroit Not yet up

Tool Loaning

List of large tools that can be borrowed from the space

  • Engine stand
  • Engine hoist w/ load leveler

Process for borrowing:

  • Send message to #cartalk on Slack, tagging zone coordinator
  • State the following:
    • Tool(s) you need to borrow
    • Duration of loan (please keep this to a minimum – tools should primarily be at the space for everyone to use)
  • Zone coordinator to approve request before removal of tool
  • Create an event on the appropriate tool calendar (still need to be created) so others can see when the tool is or is not available.


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Should you run out of time or ability to complete a task, make sure to post on the mailing list and "fail loudly". This ensures that task status is shared, and no task languishes in silent failure.

  • update the equipment list with power tools (milwaukee)
  • create wiki pages for equipment that need it
  • create qr codes and stickers for equipment that link to wiki pages OR youtube tutorials

Wish List/Ideas

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Pages in category "Automotive Zone"

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