Category:Automotive Zone
| Zone Information | |
|---|---|
| Zone Name | Automotive Zone |
| Status | Active |
| Zone Slogan | Get in the zone - Automotive Zone |
| Zone Committee Heads(s) | Sid Wali |
| Zone Slack | #cartalk |
| Zone E-mail | auto@i3detroit.org
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| Zone Color | Brown |
| Paypal Button | Pay money to Automotive Zone |
Automotive Zone Rules
Vehicle definition – trailer, quad, motorcycle, car, truck, van, snowmobile, jet ski, etc.
No paid service is to be conducted in the automotive zone. The zone is for i3 members/friends to learn and work on vehicles together, not to be run as an automotive repair/service shop for hire. It is expressly against the law due to the zoning of i3 Detroit. Examples of acceptable and unacceptable behavior:
- Unacceptable – “I have access to a lift, and can change your brakes for you for $100”
- Acceptable – “If you’d like to work on this car together and help me / learn how to change brakes we can do that in the automotive zone”
An agreement has been made with Monaghan's Towing to remove vehicles in violation of the rules, at the vehicle owner's expense (see below). If a member needs to arrange to tow their vehicle home, they can use any tow company they wish, including Monaghan Towing (rate as of 12/07/21 is $70/hookup, $4/mile). It is important to note that if the vehicle is towed and impounded because the owner cannot be contacted, the recovery fee is significantly higher.
Reservations
- To have a vehicle in the automotive zone, you must have a reservation (this includes walk-up work, where you make the reservation upon your arrival, as long as it is not already reserved by someone else).
- Reservations for the space occupied by the 2 post lift (whether or not lift is in use) are to be made using the 2 post lift calendar, put your name and phone number in the event
- Follow calendar instructions on this page: https://www.i3detroit.org/wiki/HOWTO_Reserve_Time_on_Equipment - Google Calendar is currently the booking platform in use, a transition to HelloClub is currently being worked on and will be rolled out soon.
- It is the responsibility of the vehicle owner to remove their vehicle, whether or not it can move under its own power. Towing equipment is available in the zone for this purpose.
Any member can reserve the automotive zone, whether it involves a full vehicle or not. The automotive zone can only be reserved as a whole space, if you do not need the whole space we encourage you to share with others.
If a member needs to have the automotive zone clear for moving large supplies/equipment through the B side loading bay door, they should create a reservation for the zone to ensure the path is clear.
Walk-up work
- If the automotive zone is empty, and the space is not reserved on the calendar, members can bring their projects in to work on them ad-hoc. Members with reservations have priority to use the space during their scheduled time, so if someone makes a reservation while you’re there and you haven’t reserved the space for yourself, you might need to stop your work to let them in.
Zone reservation
- Allowable time blocks:
- Normal project duration
- Max number of hours at a time: 6
- Reservation extensions can be submitted in the last hour of current reservation if time is still available.
- Any one person may only have one current or future reservation at a time
- Extended project duration
- Requires zone coordinator prior approval, at least 1 week in advance.
- Approval contingent on agreed upon plan for removal of inoperable vehicle or unfinished project should it not be completed in the time allotted.
- Normal project duration
Unattended vehicles/projects (please read carefully)
- A vehicle may only be left unattended in the automotive zone if you have an active reservation (which includes your name and contact information)
- If your vehicle or project is in the auto zone without an active reservation it needs to be removed. The process is as follows:
- If contact information is posted, attempt to contact owner will be made
- If owner responds they will be instructed to remove the vehicle within two hours
- If no response from owner within two hours, vehicle will be towed at vehicle owner’s expense
- If there is no contact information and no one returns to remove the vehicle within 2 hours, it will be towed at the vehicle owner’s expense
- If contact information is posted, attempt to contact owner will be made
- If a vehicle needs to be stored overnight, see the section below.
Project Parking Space
- There is a provision for members to park project vehicles that need to be worked on for more than one day/overnight. This is intended to allow members to store their functioning/disabled vehicles overnight in case their auto repair does not go as planned (broken bolt, ran out of time, etc). It is also intended to enable members to take on projects of larger scope (which require more than a day's work) without blocking access to the lift.
Use of this space is by reservation - on the zone calendar.
- Space: To the left of the garage near the wood post and yellow pole. 8.5 ft parallel to the garage door, going out from the wood post, and 17 ft long going out from the yellow post.
- Using the space for a disabled vehicle: In the case where a vehicle cannot move safely under its own power, users are expected to maneuver the vehicle into and out of the space using a tow vehicle or manual power. There are provisions for vehicle towing straps and shackles in the zone for this purpose.
- Rules:
- Users can book the parking space by creating a reservation on the zone calendar. Posting on the slack channel #cartalk in addition to calendar reservation is highly recommended.
- Your vehicle cannot block access to the garage in any way. It is ok if it extends past the 17 ft length limit as long as there is at least 1 ft clearance between whatever is in the space and the street.
- No long-term use: you cannot leave the same vehicle in it for more than 3 consecutive days/36 hours, or more than 6 days per calendar month. Zone or Board approval is required to go beyond this.
- If someone is using this parking spot and does not have it booked, you can ask them to move their vehicle so you can use it for your booked time.
- The space is intended for temporary overnight parking of projects. You cannot book it just to ensure you have a parking spot close to i3.
- If you leave something in this spot past the time limit or without booking it, it will be towed. You must book the spot to leave anything in it while you are not at i3 (ex: overnight). Calendar bookings must be left once completed, do not remove old calendar entries.
Automotive fluids/waste
- If you bring it in, you take it back with you on your way out. Plan ahead to have containers to do so.
- There will be no waste left in the auto zone. This includes, but is not limited to:
- Batteries, oil, transmission fluid, engine coolant, brake fluid, belts, tires, brake pads, etc.
- Scrap metal parts that are reasonably clean may only go into the scrap metal bins (i.e. used water pump, worn brake rotors, etc.)
- No automotive fluids of any kind are to be dumped on the ground, in floor drains, or in sink drains. If some fluid is spilled, clean it up immediately to prevent a slip hazard.
Vehicle part storage
- Storage of vehicle parts in the auto zone is not allowed. For storing personal parts/projects, please see other options within i3 here:
Table of Equipment
| Equipment | Location | Authorization | Owner(s) | Status |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4x8 Utility Trailer | LH wall by bay door | No | DavidHenry | Running |
| 2 Post Auto Lift | Yes | i3Detroit | Running | |
| OBD Code Reader | Drawers - B2 | No | Kc8nod | Running |
| Floor Jack | RH Wall by bay door | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Oil Lift Drain | RH Wall by bay door | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Tire Changer | LH wall ahead of lift | Yes | i3Detroit | Running |
| Wheel and Tire Balancer | LH wall ahead of lift | Yes | i3Detroit | Running |
| Wilmar Folding Engine Crane | by scrap bins | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Bead Blaster (tank) | Under workbench | No | Jglogower | Running |
| Snap Ring Pliers Set (Astro) | Drawers - B2 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| ForScan OBD Scan tool | Drawers - B2 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| Set of Files (Rexbeti) | Drawers - B2 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| Klein Tools Multimeter | Drawers - B2 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| Cen Tech OBD Scan tool | Drawers - B2 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Autel TPMS Program Tool | Drawers - B2 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Step Bit Set | Drawers - B4 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| Large axle nut tool set | Drawers - B4 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| TOPME Bolt Nut Remover Set | Drawers - B4 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| 5pc emergency nut remover | Drawers - B4 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| Craftsman Battery Charger | LH wall by lift | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Craftsman folding creeper | under table | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Neiko 1/2" Impact Socket Set | Drawers - B1 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Pittsburgh 3 ton hyd. Floor jack | floor | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Nesco 2-1/4 ton hydraulic floor jack | floor | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| TPMS relearn tools (3) | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| Fuel Injector tester | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| Cylinder compression tester | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| exhaust pipe expander | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| disc brake tool set | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| maddox spring compressor | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| crow foot tool set | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| 37deg brake line flare tool | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| tie rod/ball joint tool set | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| pittsburgh 2lb slide hammer | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| brake bleeder kit (redbox) | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| plastic welding kit | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| photo tachometer | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| ball joint separator | Cupboard shelf 1 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| inflater wall mount (not in use) | Cupboard shelf 2 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| plastic trim kit and fasteners | Cupboard shelf 2 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| pittsburgh pneumatic bleeder | Cupboard shelf 2 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| basketball (for bodywork/dents) | Cupboard shelf 3 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| no spill coolant funnel | Cupboard shelf 3 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| siphon pump orange | Cupboard shelf 3 | No | Nate B | Running |
| gear oil pump | Cupboard shelf 3 | No | Sid Wali | Running |
| rotary vane vacuum pump & oil | Cupboard shelf 4 | No | ? | Running |
| master inner tie rod tool set | Cupboard shelf 4 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| pittsburgh 3-jaw gear puller set | Cupboard shelf 4 | No | i3Detroit | Running |
| maddox cylinder leakdown tester | Cupboard shelf 4 | No | Chris Stark | Running |
| lainkeen inner bearing puller set | Cupboard shelf 4 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| induction bolt heater | Cupboard shelf 4 | No | Nbezanson | Running |
| ball joint press tool set | Cupboard shelf 4 | No | Jglogower | Running |
| branick 7200 spring compressor | currently on table | No | i3Detroit | Not yet up |
Tool Loaning
List of large tools that can be borrowed from the space
- Engine stand
- Engine hoist w/ load leveler
Process for borrowing:
- Send message to #cartalk on Slack, tagging zone coordinator
- State the following:
- Tool(s) you need to borrow
- Duration of loan (please keep this to a minimum – tools should primarily be at the space for everyone to use)
- Zone coordinator to approve request before removal of tool
- Create an event on the appropriate tool calendar (still need to be created) so others can see when the tool is or is not available.
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Should you run out of time or ability to complete a task, make sure to post on the mailing list and "fail loudly". This ensures that task status is shared, and no task languishes in silent failure.
- update the equipment list with power tools (milwaukee)
- create wiki pages for equipment that need it
- create qr codes and stickers for equipment that link to wiki pages OR youtube tutorials
Wish List/Ideas
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Pages in category "Automotive Zone"
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